Anchor locker query

  • May 29, 2020 1:20 PM
    Message # 9001637

    Hi Everyone, Gary and Fiona here, brand new W32 owners of Loukia in Cairns, Australia.  The previous owners put a manual anchor windlass on deck with the chain on a drum which is very ugly and takes up a lot of space on the bow.  I've had a look at the build manual and see that there should be a chain pipe to lead the chain to below the v berth.  Two questions; Doesn't that jam up and if it does you need two people to sort it out (one above and one below decks)?  Also the water and mud would appear to need to run  into the bilgle which would make for a smelly and messy bilge?

    Our plan is to put a new windlass in.  I've read lots of forum posts and keeping the weight of the chain low in the boat but I was thinking of putting a locker under the windlass forward of the v berth and would love to get your thoughts?

    Thanks heaps

    Gary and Fiona

  • June 07, 2020 10:36 AM
    Reply # 9021008 on 9001637
    Anonymous member (Administrator)


    I'm reaching out to see if I can get someone with more experience with anchor lockers/windless etc. 

    On my San Francisco bay cruising W32, I have chain and 5/8 braid which all fits nicely in the anchor locker and I don't have a windless. 

    As far as the tube to the bilge - some boats have them and others don't - jamming is an issue that I've read about and the solutions vary between the various articles on the subject. 



  • June 08, 2020 11:37 AM
    Reply # 9023275 on 9001637

    Hello Gary Fiona and Jay

    First:  You said "I was thinking of putting a locker under the windlass forward of the v berth"  There should already be a locker there.  Is there not?   The anchor locker bulkhead should be about 40" aft of the stem.  This area is plenty big for one rode.  But not two.  One of my rodes is 40' of chain and 300' of 5/8', nylon.  My anchor windlass, a Simpson Lawrence 555 is directly above this locker, and straddling the bowsprit.  The deck pipes for the rodes are 12" forward of the samson posts.  This arrangement is the most common on Westsail 32's.  All of this rode will easily self store in the locker.  I do not have a wash down pump.  If the rode comes up dirty I will simply lay it out on deck and address it separately after getting the anchor up.  This is SELDOM the case as you can usually clean the rode and anchor as it is coming up.  I use my windlass less than 5% of the time.  I pull by hand as I am 7'3" and weigh 320#.  

    The 2nd rode is 250' of 5/16" HT chain,  followed by 100' of 5/8”  nylon, followed by 20' of 1/4" breakable polypropylene.    Under the deck, the deck pipe drops into a 4" PVC pipe that is attached at the deck,  This pipe is angled toward the sampson post and then between them.  It runs through the bulkhead and into the locker that is under the bunk.  It ends there.  The chain rode will then drop vertically into this locker.  You are right.  The chain rode will stack very vertically and jam the flow after about 50' to 70'.  You could address this issue at the time by knocking the pile over, or later by feeding the chain on to the deck until the anchor is up.         Back inside the boat, the chain is run aft past the first locker under the bunk and into the bilge.  Aft in the bilge and under the shower pan.  I have a large removable section in this shower pan.  I can easily grab and pull all the chain aft into the bilge area from here.  When I wish to do so.  On a previous W-32 I owned I led the anchor rode all the way aft to a cavity aft of the mast compression post.  When dropping anchor, all of the rode will run out properly.  Unless you have some baby diapers stored in the wrong places.

    This system works for me.  I've done it a long time and continue to do it.  With that said, at present. my all chain rode is not even on the boat.  It is my long distance cruising package.  Locally I don't need the all chain so I remove it from the boat.  I have only one anchor hanging off the bow at this time.  When crossing an ocean (not when racing) all three of my rodes are ready to go although I will still store one anchor below just for better weight distribution.

    I have sailed a W-32 a long distance that had the windlass on the foredeck.  I understand why it was there.  I did not like it there though.  it created other problems.  I believe the original arrangement with the windlass straddling the sprit is the better way to go.  Good luck, keep us informed  and feel free to ask any questions.      Dave

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  • June 09, 2020 5:49 PM
    Reply # 9026734 on 9001637

    Tee hee. 7’3” and 320# good one Dave.

       Patience has a 3” pvc pipe from the deck to aft of the vberth bulkhead. I can pull about 60’ of chain before it stops dropping down. This means about three trips below to pull the chain back under the shower pan. 250 feet stored there. Manual 555 windlass on bowsprit.

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