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  • November 03, 2012 11:24 AM
    Reply # 1125694 on 1098327
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    We ran our cockpit drains out the back like is shown in Gary's photo when we did the Dave King  mod except we went through the back bulk head.  We did that because we have all the house batteries in the engine compartment.  

    Water does sometimes surge up into the cockpit when severely heeled over. We believe most of this due to not having the ells up high enough, something we will eventually correct. If that doesn't work we'll put in check valves.  If we're heeled over so water is surging we are heeled to much and not sailing the boat properly.

    We considered crossing them over but  were concerned that when the cockpit filled when heeled it wouldn't drain.  I considered crossing them and tying them into one pipe exiting each side but it seemed like a lot of trouble and might slow down draining.


    Jim
    Last modified: November 03, 2012 11:39 AM | Deleted user
  • November 03, 2012 4:23 PM
    Reply # 1125816 on 1121063
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    Stephen Yoder wrote:
    Jay Bietz wrote:

    One common modification is to move the cockpit drains to just above the water line .  This really opened up my engine room. 

    Jay, 
    I've been trying to figure out how moving the cockpit drains above the waterline frees up space in the engine room.  Don't you still have the same hoses, just up a few inches?  My cockpit drain hoses are in the lazarette (only the aft drain indentations in the footwell are actually used for drains).  Also, granted, my W28 is not a W32 but looking at my drains in the hull, they're only maybe an inch or two below the footwell, or so it appears anyway.
    -Steve


    Steve: I looked for an pic of the engine compartment after the changes but failed to find a good one.  The cockpit drain straight fittings were exchanged for ones with a 90 Deg bend - the hoses are secured/strapped along the bottom of the cockpit tub and a therefore are up and out of the way as they head aft. 

    Hope this helps

    Jay 

  • November 03, 2012 6:06 PM
    Reply # 1125867 on 1125816
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    Jay Bietz wrote: the hoses are secured/strapped along the bottom of the cockpit tub and a therefore are up and out of the way as they head aft. 
    If the W32 cockpit is like the W28, there are indentations in all four corners of the footwell that could be cut out for drains.  On my boat, the aft spots were opened up for drains and the forward indents just left alone.  On Pygmalion, it sounds like the forward indents were opened up instead.  That's what caused my confusion as on my boat the cockpit drain hoses never even see the engine room.  I just ordered new thru-hulls and sea cocks for the cockpit drains as well as check valves.  Think I'm going to remove the crossed-over hoses when the stuff gets here.

    -Steve
  • November 03, 2012 8:01 PM
    Reply # 1125897 on 1117439
    Dick Mills wrote:
    ... I converted the galley sink to use it's own seacock under the sink, but I routed the drain through a foot pump.  The foot pump prevents sea water from backing up, even under sail, and it drains the sink effectively in all conditions.   The Whale Gusher foot pump needs to be cleaned out every year or two.  I think I got the tip to use the foot pump here on the WOA forum.


    Yes you did, Dick... and it was a good thread.  Here it is... 
  • November 04, 2012 7:16 AM
    Reply # 1126139 on 1125867
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    Stephen Yoder wrote:
    Jay Bietz wrote: the hoses are secured/strapped along the bottom of the cockpit tub and a therefore are up and out of the way as they head aft. 
    If the W32 cockpit is like the W28, there are indentations in all four corners of the footwell that could be cut out for drains.  On my boat, the aft spots were opened up for drains and the forward indents just left alone.  On Pygmalion, it sounds like the forward indents were opened up instead.  That's what caused my confusion as on my boat the cockpit drain hoses never even see the engine room.  I just ordered new thru-hulls and sea cocks for the cockpit drains as well as check valves.  Think I'm going to remove the crossed-over hoses when the stuff gets here.

    -Steve


    Steve: Yes on Pygmalion - the forward spots are plumbed - and I havn't noticed any W32 with the aft drains installed -- but you never know.

    Jay

  • November 05, 2012 7:49 AM
    Reply # 1126746 on 1098327
    Deleted user
    Gary, Thanks for the picture. It helps alot!
  • November 05, 2012 9:15 AM
    Reply # 1126836 on 1098327
    No problem, hope you stick with the project :)
    Surprised no-one commented on the lack of hoseclamps.. :)
  • November 05, 2012 3:39 PM
    Reply # 1129827 on 1098327
    The cockpit floor was originally made so it sloped forward, with the low end forward.  I know of one owner that modified his cockpit well (he had the original cockpit tub) so the floor sloped aft.  The drains were at the aft end of the cockpit, and with elbows on them, it was a short run to just above the waterline at the stern for both drains.  A neat solution.  However it would require a lot of fiberglassing to modify the cockpit on the majority of the W32's, and on the W28's.
  • November 07, 2012 3:41 AM
    Reply # 1131740 on 1098327

    my W28's cockpit drains aft like steve's.  but, mine drop straight down and then curve aft to an elbow at the seacock, perhaps 8" below the waterline. they are not crossed, so it makes for easy access to the engine room.  i suspect that the W28 drains aft, because the extra 700 poiunds of lead added to the ballast caused the stern to sink somewhat. not only that, the lowest point on the side deck is about 2 feet behind the deck scuppers, so there is usually a puddle of water there.

    james

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