Buying new mainsail...need opinion.

  • June 15, 2011 8:20 AM
    Message # 622025
    Anonymous
    I've decided to delay my purchase of a canopy and use the money to buy a mainsail. I haven't one at the moment and after almost a year of ownership I have never sailed my boat. WTF?! Time just slips by so quickly!

    The W28 mainsail dimensions I copied from Aarons thread are as follows;
    Luff        38' 3"
    leech     15' 10"
    foot        40' 6"

    I seem to remember reading about reducing the foot for better balance or something like that so I'm wondering if W28 owners have, over time, found different sail dimensions to work better.

    Should I have the sail people recut the sail to different size or go with the dimensions listed here? Any other suggestions such as battens, cars, etc? I'm determined to sail (not motor) to the Chesapeake rendezvous in September, but I know nothing about sails. Any advice would be welcome.

    Thanks, Eric
    W28 Clementine
     
    Last modified: June 15, 2011 8:23 AM | Anonymous
  • June 15, 2011 8:43 AM
    Reply # 622033 on 622025
    Deleted user
    I think you might have the foot and the leech crossed up. 

    I have a W32, and bought new sails from Kern a couple of years ago.  Slightly shorter foot got rid of the weather helm quite nicely.
  • June 15, 2011 10:14 AM
    Reply # 622085 on 622025
    A vote for Kern. Very good quality and price.
  • June 15, 2011 1:26 PM
    Reply # 622213 on 622025
    Deleted user
    Eric Olander wrote:I've decided to delay my purchase of a canopy and use the money to buy a mainsail. I haven't one at the moment and after almost a year of ownership I have never sailed my boat. WTF?! Time just slips by so quickly!

    The W28 mainsail dimensions I copied from Aarons thread are as follows;
    Luff        38' 3"
    leech     15' 10"
    foot        40' 6"

    I seem to remember reading about reducing the foot for better balance or something like that so I'm wondering if W28 owners have, over time, found different sail dimensions to work better.

    Should I have the sail people recut the sail to different size or go with the dimensions listed here? Any other suggestions such as battens, cars, etc? I'm determined to sail (not motor) to the Chesapeake rendezvous in September, but I know nothing about sails. Any advice would be welcome.

    Thanks, Eric
    W28 Clementine
     
    Eric:  I think the dimensions you have are for the W32.

      and yes the foot is the short one the luff is the one on the front.  and the leech is the backside measurement.

     Easy way to remember:  "foot" is always on the bottom and you "leech" (latch on to a sails back side to "flake" it, or if you have a "clew" you haul it out on the "boom")  leaving the "luff" up front. You also "tack" down the front of the "foot" so as not to have the sail go up the mast lifted by it's "head".

    Kind of works+/- and people who have no Idea, some how seam to be able to tolerate me.

    Just a point of view.
    Are you able to do allot of sailing? (you noted you were a liveaboard) remember you need a main sail cover just like the canvas work but smaller to protect the sail when it is down which is more boat bucks. What shape is the running rigging in ? I assume the boat is setup with all of the correct winches +/- ? 

    almost Lastly: if you keep the liveaboard boat in sailing condition, with less than one hour of work to get her sailing, then you are cruising form a single location right? (just a Thought).

    One more:  (Sailing) and (arriving some where "intended" on a schedule) are mutually exclusive 90% of the time. On the other hand if you have lots of time, a good book, some rope work, and some sun screen or foulies, sailing is great!  Motoring is not all that bad, Heck it seams 50% of the rendezvous I have attended were by folk who left their boat at their dock (with or without sails).


    Last modified: June 15, 2011 1:32 PM | Deleted user
  • June 15, 2011 5:16 PM
    Reply # 622382 on 622213
    Anonymous
    Norm Rhines wrote:
    Eric Olander wrote:I've decided to delay my purchase of a canopy and use the money to buy a mainsail. I haven't one at the moment and after almost a year of ownership I have never sailed my boat. WTF?! Time just slips by so quickly!

    The W28 mainsail dimensions I copied from Aarons thread are as follows;
    Luff        38' 3"
    leech     15' 10"
    foot        40' 6"

    I seem to remember reading about reducing the foot for better balance or something like that so I'm wondering if W28 owners have, over time, found different sail dimensions to work better.

    Should I have the sail people recut the sail to different size or go with the dimensions listed here? Any other suggestions such as battens, cars, etc? I'm determined to sail (not motor) to the Chesapeake rendezvous in September, but I know nothing about sails. Any advice would be welcome.

    Thanks, Eric
    W28 Clementine
     
    Eric:  I think the dimensions you have are for the W32.

      and yes the foot is the short one the luff is the one on the front.  and the leech is the backside measurement.

     Easy way to remember:  "foot" is always on the bottom and you "leech" (latch on to a sails back side to "flake" it, or if you have a "clew" you haul it out on the "boom")  leaving the "luff" up front. You also "tack" down the front of the "foot" so as not to have the sail go up the mast lifted by it's "head".

    Kind of works+/- and people who have no Idea, some how seam to be able to tolerate me.

    Just a point of view.
    Are you able to do allot of sailing? (you noted you were a liveaboard) remember you need a main sail cover just like the canvas work but smaller to protect the sail when it is down which is more boat bucks. What shape is the running rigging in ? I assume the boat is setup with all of the correct winches +/- ? 

    almost Lastly: if you keep the liveaboard boat in sailing condition, with less than one hour of work to get her sailing, then you are cruising form a single location right? (just a Thought).

    One more:  (Sailing) and (arriving some where "intended" on a schedule) are mutually exclusive 90% of the time. On the other hand if you have lots of time, a good book, some rope work, and some sun screen or foulies, sailing is great!  Motoring is not all that bad, Heck it seams 50% of the rendezvous I have attended were by folk who left their boat at their dock (with or without sails).


    Thank you all for the great help. I've been living at anchor across the river from National Harbor (it's beautiful all lit up at night!) for a couple months now and have spent most of my energies stopping leaks, learning how to cook, convincing Leslie this is still a good idea, move around, stay cool, keep batteries charged, bathe and keep my seat on the toilet while being waked by power boats. (I now have to reassemble smashed door to the head) My fresh water pumps aren't working for some reason etc etc etc.
     Obviously I haven't done my actual sailing homework. Mistaking a W32's dimensions for mine kinda gives me away though, don't it? I have been motoring up to the Washington Channel in Wash DC once a week to do laundry and to take a real shower but I'm beginning to feel some self esteem issues as I sit at anchor and watch a lot of great sailors with well equipped boats sail by. (I am using a drop cloth with paint all over for a sun cover...very derelict looking) Hahaha but I am loving this lifestyle. I smile now when I get up in the morning.

    I called Kern sails and he gave me a quote of 2 to 2200 dollars. This seems to be quite a bit higher than Bacon sails price. Why so high? I am having someone come inspect and help me tune etc my rigging after payday on the first and then will buy a sail. (If I've enough money left over ;-P

    Kerns suggested a shorter foot and full battens and I will probably go with him. I'd buy used if I knew what the heck I was doing but don't want to waste money on a sail that isn't suitable. It sure is nice to have this Westsail group to come to.

    Anyone have a used W28 mainsail for cheap?

    Eric



    Last modified: June 15, 2011 5:20 PM | Anonymous
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