Cleat over cap rail

  • August 25, 2015 12:05 PM
    Message # 3495942
    Anonymous

    I'm in the process of removing the teak caprails.  There are two cleats per side that are screwed through the caprail into the bulwark. They are NOT self tapping screws, they are machine screws. 

    I'm assuming that there are nuts in the bulwark holding these cleats on. There is a SS plate under the cleat sitting on top of the teak. Is there a corresponding plate in the bulwark? Or are the nuts just mounted with washers?

    Anyone know?

    The same question for the boom gallows.  My issue is that the bulwarks are filled with foam insulation so getting to the underside of these fittings is problematic.

    Cheers,

    Paul

  • August 31, 2015 8:45 PM
    Reply # 3504357 on 3495942
    Deleted user

    In my experience, problematic is the operative word whenever you need to access the inside of the bulwark. I don't have the same cleat, so I don't know what kind of loads your cleats are securing. If the loads on the cleat could be high, it would most likely have a backing plate, not just washers and nuts. If you just want to get the cleats off without ripping out the insulation, you might be able to grind the screw heads off with an angle grinder. Everything I've had to remove from the bulwark has required me removing 5 other things to gain access. Then I have to painstakingly reach in with a hand wrench and do 1000 quarter turns to free a bolt. The upside is the difficulty helps burn off bad karma.

  • September 04, 2015 9:12 AM
    Reply # 3510590 on 3495942
    Anonymous

    I got the cleats off, but still don't have an answer.  I swear that who ever built this boat had one guy working port side, and another working starboard.  Port side seems well done, starboard must have been the apprentice who didn't give a rip.

    The port side cleat screws were tough but turned out no problem. The cleat came off the rail sweetly.  Starboard side ... as soon as I loosened the screws the nuts below must have been turning. I resorted to using a 5" angle grinder.  Yep, gouged the teak. (dagnabit!)

    The boom gallows had 9 lag bolts each side. through the teak & cap rail.  Heavily caulked - no leaks. I guess the rationale here is that there isn't much upward / lateral weight to take so the lag bolts are sufficient.

  • September 05, 2015 8:55 AM
    Reply # 3511898 on 3495942
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    When ever you have to work on the caprail/bulworks - it's messy for sure.  Check out Westsail Fixes & FAQ  where details of removing and replacing the cap rails is discussed.  

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