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Questions about Simrad TP32

  • July 17, 2014 9:59 AM
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    Reply # 3047716 on 3035941
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    $602.16 +$9.95 shipping at Ultimate Passage.  Getting cheaper, I paid 607 here a few months ago.  Great people to work with too.   My tp30 finally gave up the ghost and i thought the new tp32 would just use the old socket... nope, more pins in the new one.  I just use the power and no data so it will be an easy switch out.   Also, I do a port mount instead of starboard.  i seem to always be on the port side and it is easier to use from that side for me.
  • July 18, 2014 5:10 AM
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    Reply # 3048124 on 3035941
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    So my new TP32 is in hand, the power connector installed and I'm pondering ways to mount the tiller pilot itself.  My old Navico was mounted 18" forward of the rudder hinge, similar to what Simrad recommends.  However, being much longer this would mean the Simrad would extend outboard of the caprail.  Not too happy with it being 'overboard' like that.

    So I'm mounting it more forward.  I've gone through a few iterations of different mount designs, my latest being a simple 3" wide stainless 'L' bracket mounted 'upside down'.. The long leg of the L would bolt to the inboard side of the bulwark just forward of the rear leg of the boom gallows. I will need to trim a bit of caprail to fit the bracket against the fiberglass similar to how the chainplates are installed.  The bottom leg of the 'L' then sits over the caprail and makes a platform for the brass socket.  Finally,  I'm going to attach a piece of 5/8" 'Starboard' type material underneath the platform to make a solid base for the brass socket.

    Real simple and with the advantage of ignoring the problem of accommodating the 'S' curve of the caprail and not having to predetermine the proper height prior to fabricating the bracket. I'll be able to adjust to the proper height during installation.

    A penny for your thoughts...

    Last modified: July 18, 2014 5:56 AM | Anonymous member
  • July 18, 2014 6:10 PM
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    Reply # 3048712 on 3035941
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    on our boat, I have two of the simrad extensions on the end of the pilot. that should be all you need with the addition of a riser to get the socket for the caprail up high enough.


    Rich
  • July 18, 2014 6:12 PM
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    Reply # 3048713 on 3035941
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    also, ours is mounted just forward on the caprail where it rises to it's highest spot.


    Rich
  • August 03, 2014 6:20 AM
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    Reply # 3062653 on 3035941
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    Here's how I decided to handle the mounting of the TP32.

    I added a 1" tube to the boom gallows using hinged clamp on tee's, one 90 and one 60 degree. I had to put about a 20 degree bend in the tube.

     

     

     

     

    Fortunately, someone on the dock had a hand pipe bender that I borrowed.

     

    I made a Teak block that the drive arm socket is installed. The teak block is through bolted over the tube.

     

     

     

    Added a couple of coats of sealant to the wood, cut the bolts and it's done.

    It certainly is not as straight forward as simply installing the socket cup directly into the cap rail, but it is easy to get the correct height and distance from the tiller.

     

    Todd 
  • September 02, 2014 7:54 AM
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    Reply # 3090654 on 3035941
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    So I finally got a chance to try out the TP-32 over the weekend. Does anyone else find the stroke on the TP 32 to be too short when mounted this far forward on the Tiller? We used it on a beam reach, the helm was mostly balanced with slight weather helm, there was only a light chop in the bay. The tiller pilot seemed to have enough power, but lacked the stroke to bring the boat back down to course when the wind puffed up.  

    I'm considering repositioning - splitting the difference on the mounting position and moving it aft to mount between the boom gallows  and the pushpit.

    Todd
  • September 02, 2014 11:27 AM
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    Reply # 3090845 on 3035941
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    Hi Todd, great looking install! I would not move the TP32 any further back. If the boat is balanced well when sailing, it does not need much "throw" at all to maintain a course. I have mine mounted very close in position to where you have yours, a bit further forward .. it worked great. I have changed to a Raymarine EV-100 and that is mounted in the same position, however the TP32 worked fine.

    Video here of the TP32 steering the boat here TP32: Only the first few seconds show the TP32 but it gives some idea of how it works..


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  • September 02, 2014 12:32 PM
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    Reply # 3090885 on 3035941
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    Thanks Gary,

    We certainly were not in conditions as strong as in your video. I thought we had the boat balanced pretty well - I'll play with it some more.

     

    Todd 

     

     
  • September 02, 2014 9:27 PM
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    Reply # 3091177 on 3035941
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    Todd, also forgot to mention that the gain was always set very low on my TP32 - 2 or 3.

    I let the boat move around a bit as it has a natural tendency to come back on course...as you know. How did the racing go this August? Those pictures show your boat moving great! Any idea what the dimensions of your genoa are?
  • September 03, 2014 5:14 AM
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    Reply # 3091287 on 3035941
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    Gary,

    we had some traffic around where we couldn't let the boat wander off course for very long. I suspect we were a little over sheeted for the tiller pilot.

    Texas Race Week didn't go so well this year. 2 day's were absolute drifters, and the third day, well let's just say we had a great time - sailing with my Dad and my little brother was a treat! Next up is the Harvest Moon Regatta October 9-11, a 150 mile race under the full Harvest Moon over night. This race is more like a rally-2/3 of the 150 to 200 boats will be in the cruising fleet.  We will have a lot of W32 knowledge on board -The Sundowners Tate & Dani as well as Danny B - owner of  W32 Se Suerta are going to do it with me.

    The genoa is a 127% - LP-23.8 the dimensions are: Luff-43'9", Leach - 40'10", Foot-22'.

     

    Todd 
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