Mounting Solar on Stern Pulpit

  • December 04, 2013 4:40 PM
    Message # 1451925
    Deleted user
    I have a wooden boomkin and am considering buying Bud's stern pulpit and mainsheet hoop.
    My 2-Kyocera 140 watt panels are about 2'x5'.
    I have had them sitting securely on the deck between mast and companionway hatch.
    Obvioussly this was meant to be only temporary.

    I am seeking advice about mounting them on the top rail horizontally on each side of Bud's pulpit?

    The pulpit naturally would have to have a fixed solid top rail to the boom gallows frame and the panels would use the entire length possibly hanging out beyond the aft edge of the pulpit a little.

    Would so much panel surface area smother/alter my future windvanes performance?
    I have very little understanding of how a windvane works.

    I have been watching YouTube videos of many windvanes operating successfully with large single panels mounted at the end of square transomed boats.
    Yes, I am aware of getting pooped and loosing the panels, this doesn't concern me.
    The pulpit is 24 inches above the boomkin.
    I'm not interested in adjustable panels, that is a different is discussion.

    Thanks

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  • December 04, 2013 6:20 PM
    Reply # 1451957 on 1451925
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    Carl,

    I have Bud's stern pulpit and main sheet hoop installed with the solid top rail attached to the boom gallows upright brace. I believe that was an option versus a section of lifeline. Anyhow, it measures 4 feet 5 inches and is where I plan to mount my panels. I am looking at panels about 36 inches long but I don't see any issues with the 7 inches of overhang you would have in regard to a wind vane. I have an Aries mounted and a 5 foot panel with about 7 inches of overhang wouldn't impact its operation in any way as far as I can tell.

    Werner
  • December 04, 2013 7:26 PM
    Reply # 1451975 on 1451925
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    Werner,
    Thats a great help.
    He does sell the fixed rails as well.



    Thanks so much.
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  • December 04, 2013 8:51 PM
    Reply # 1452010 on 1451925
    One thing to think about is when the boom is all the way out (on a run) the main sheet will rub hard on the panel if there is a solid section between the stern pulpit and gallows. This is for those with the mainsheet hoop or original Westsail boomkin sheeting arrangement. I have this and plan to put two 40 watt panels only on the pulpit section (on either side) the 40 watt panels fit here nicely and don't get in the way.....for what its worth..
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  • December 18, 2013 4:23 PM
    Reply # 1460691 on 1451925
    Ahoy Carl,

    I installed solar panels from Emarine on the sides of the boat adjacent to the cockpit. I got the idea from Randy Leisure on Tortuga (a fine ship and owner if ever there was one). They sell a "skinny" 65 watt panel that comes with a controller and you can order their mounting kit. The kit comes with a couple flat aluminum plates, a section of 1" SS tubing and u-bolts for attaching to stanchions. One thing Randy and I found out was that the dissimilar metals are an issue so be sure to insulate the SS connectors from the aluminum parts. It also comes with an extension device to raise and support the panel so you can direct them at the sun for best efficiency. These were too long so I chopped some off so that I could control the degree of panel angle. I used bimini connectors with pull pins on the cap rail and back of the panel so I could stow the extension out of the way when the panels are not in use. There are a few photos in my member profile under solar project…I can't seem to be able to insert them into this reply.
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  • December 18, 2013 6:25 PM
    Reply # 1460734 on 1451925
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  • September 14, 2014 5:50 PM
    Reply # 3099642 on 1452010
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    Gary Burton wrote:One thing to think about is when the boom is all the way out (on a run) the main sheet will rub hard on the panel if there is a solid section between the stern pulpit and gallows. This is for those with the mainsheet hoop or original Westsail boomkin sheeting arrangement. I have this and plan to put two 40 watt panels only on the pulpit section (on either side) the 40 watt panels fit here nicely and don't get in the way.....for what its worth..

    That is what I have on Devon's Whisper. The two 40 watt panels are each mounted on a 24" length of welded ss 1" tubing that has two arms that extend at 45 degrees about 10 inches outboard from the pulpit railing. The panels can be adjusted to maximize efficiency as well as accommodating the main sheet on a run by virtue of the adjustable nylon mounting brackets.
  • September 15, 2014 11:36 AM
    Reply # 3100080 on 1451925

    We have a 50 watt panel on a stern pulpit modified to raise the panel 6 feet above thedeck and above the wind blade of the monitor self steering,  For years I wanted to expand to 200 watts but I could not figure out a place to mount them.

    Eventually, I realized that I only want the panels to avoid running the engine to charge batteries.   When under way, we use the engine all day, or part of the day for propulsion.  I need the panels only when we will be at anchor for more than a day.  In other words, i can dismount and stow the panels away when we are motoring or sailing.  I think we average 60-90 days per year underway, leaving 275-305 days per year at anchor.

    I added two 80 watt panels.  I wired them for easy disconnect.   When we are under way, I stow them securely on top of the turtle and under the dinghy which we carry under the boom.

    When at anchor, I found that I can very simply lash the panels on top of the mainsail which is flaked on the boom.  When anchored in the keys where easterly winds prevail, I hang the panels from the starboard lifelines and use sticks to prop them at a 45 degree angle.  That is optimal angle, and is never in shade.  If heavy weather approaches, or we plan to weigh anchor, I stow them.  The non-permanent mountings are simple and effective.

    So, as others have already said, it depends on your use needs.  The quantity of panels depends on your electric consumption.  For us, the 12v refrigeration system is 80% of our load, and 210 watts of panels provides 100% of our needs almost every day.  Even at higher latitudes where the effectiveness of panels is much reduced, it is enough,  As I just mentioned, my needs also divide into periods with the boat under way and periods at anchor, so a non-permanent mounting of solar panels fits well. 

    You?  You will have to think through your own use requirements.


  • December 02, 2014 3:18 PM
    Reply # 3161554 on 1451925

    Here is a link to a photo of how we mounted a pair of 180W panels on the gallows. 


    Photos here


    Good luck!

    Aaron

  • December 03, 2014 9:45 AM
    Reply # 3163104 on 1451925
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    Aaron I hate to ask. But how are they working?

    (all of my panels are greatly effected by shadows) the line over the panel will cast a shadow I know it is small, but for my panels that small shadow would cut about 60% of the output.

    Thanks for the photo album (You have done some great projects) I like, and may do the winch handle holder at the mast = very very nice.

    Thanks:

    Norm


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