wobbly rudder

  • May 22, 2011 7:06 AM
    Message # 598039
    Deleted user
    Bud,
    The rudder on my W28 is getting kind of wobbly like there's some slop in the pintle/gudgeon connection. Is this common and is there a fix short of new pintles and/or gudgeons?

    -Steve
  • May 22, 2011 8:53 AM
    Reply # 598086 on 598039
    Probably a plastic bushing Steve.
  • May 22, 2011 11:09 AM
    Reply # 598149 on 598039
    Anonymous member (Administrator)
    Stephen Yoder wrote:Bud,
    The rudder on my W28 is getting kind of wobbly like there's some slop in the pintle/gudgeon connection. Is this common and is there a fix short of new pintles and/or gudgeons?

    -Steve


    I had to shim the tiller to rudder area to stop a wobble in Pygmalion.

    Jay

  • May 23, 2011 11:00 AM
    Reply # 599085 on 598039
    Stephen Yoder wrote:Bud,
    The rudder on my W28 is getting kind of wobbly like there's some slop in the pintle/gudgeon connection. Is this common and is there a fix short of new pintles and/or gudgeons?

    -Steve


    The gudgeons have a fiberglass tube in them, and the pintals are bronze rods.  If the fiberglass wears, then you can get some wobble at the gudgeons.  Check Pages D-7, D-9, and D-12 in my Westsail Service Manual. 

    About the only fix I can come up with is when the boat is hauled, put some tape around the pins under the gudgeons, and pour some thickened epoxy resin around the pins to fill the gaps.  When the epoxy is just getting hard, move the rudder back and forth to make sure the resin does not stick to the pins.  That should fill in the worn areas.

  • May 24, 2011 6:36 AM
    Reply # 600032 on 599085
    Deleted user
    Bud Taplin wrote:
    Stephen Yoder wrote:Bud,
    The rudder on my W28 is getting kind of wobbly like there's some slop in the pintle/gudgeon connection. Is this common and is there a fix short of new pintles and/or gudgeons?

    -Steve


    The gudgeons have a fiberglass tube in them, and the pintals are bronze rods.  If the fiberglass wears, then you can get some wobble at the gudgeons.  Check Pages D-7, D-9, and D-12 in my Westsail Service Manual. 

    About the only fix I can come up with is when the boat is hauled, put some tape around the pins under the gudgeons, and pour some thickened epoxy resin around the pins to fill the gaps.  When the epoxy is just getting hard, move the rudder back and forth to make sure the resin does not stick to the pins.  That should fill in the worn areas.

    Thanks, Bud.  Sounds like a plan.  I'll add it to my haulout to-do list.  And I'll check the service manual as well.

    -Steve
  • May 25, 2011 9:48 PM
    Reply # 601852 on 598039

    Ahoy Steve,

    A few years ago, while hauled out, I noticed a little looseness in the gudgeon/ pintle connection.  It was only a little and caused no real concern.  However, I decided to shim it up.  I used mylar film, which is .002" thick.  I cut the length equal to the gudgeon tube length, and the width equal to the pintle circumference - with no overlap.  I removed the pintles and was able to get one piece of mylar in each gudgeon.  I could not get more.  There has been no problem since.

    Good luck,    Dave

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